we need more jobs who are graduating with good education. hopefully that will happen over the next couple of years. if it doesn't, we are going to have to figure out what to do about it. it will be yet another problem we'll have to deal with. host: rosalee, good morning, independent line. caller: you know what, i'm still hanging on the line here -- host: sorry, we'll go to richard, broken ar roy, republican line. caller: hi guys, how are you. one thing i was wondering about, if you run out of unemployment insurance, is that counted in the survey as far as unemployment is concerned? guest: i think the answer, it's not the status of your unemployment insurance, it's the status of you, whether you're actually looking for a job or not. and there's some fuzziness about how they measure who's looking for a job. i think one of the ways they measure it is if you're unemployed and you check in with a state unemployment agency, that is one way they count you as looking for a job, but unemployed. if the government can't tell you're looking for a job, i